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Canon pricing games, here we go. 1dmkIII

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Anthony Arkadia

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Well it did not take long for Canon to start their nonsense, they have just altered their original white paper on the 1dmkIII about it's pricing, It no longer states that price will be $3,999.00,
it now states that "Actual prices are set by dealers and prices may vary.", Calumet is the first to jump on board, they changed their original $3,999.00 now too $4,499.00.
 
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Remember that Calumet is the extra full price store and B&H sets the real world, across the board pricing!
 
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Chuck Fry

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The white paper said that from the moment I read it. So did all their publicity on the 1DIII.

Why are you surprised that some stores want to capitalize on the people who have to have the very latest thing right now!!?? Remember the price history of the 5D?
 
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Anthony Arkadia

New member
I am not surprised at all, first all the rebate nonsense with Canon, and the hiring of Young America to do the rebates. What i am laughing at is that they have altered their white sheet already, which totally contradicts their price structure. I am really starting to be annoyed with some of their antics lately, sooner or later they will have some competition and things might change then, until that day i see them doing as they please.
 
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Bart_van_der_Wolf

pro member
Chuck Fry said:
Why are you surprised that some stores want to capitalize on the people who have to have the very latest thing right now!!?? Remember the price history of the 5D?
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I remember when the 1Ds Mark II came out. Local pricing was indeed as suggested at the time for Europe. One of my regular photo dealers tried to charge an additional 200 Euros and were not (yet) willing to lower the price to the suggested level. I told one of my other dealers they could call me as soon as the price had dropped 700 Euros, within a week after introduction I received a call ...

Bart
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Bart,

The main margin winners are Canon!

I doubt that anyone will be able to keep proces aboove the $4,000 since with email and the internet, any lower price will be overnight the norm!

Asher
 
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Harvey Moore

New member
Why the negative posts on this new Camera from Canon?

Canon said from the start that pricing was not finalised yet.

There is another thread here where the poster blew apart a very short portion of the shadow area on a sample jpg Canon image that was taken in Nov last year, found a so called banding problem, more negativity.

It looks to me like some very significant engineering changes on this new machine that to me are very exciting. 14 bit files, sensor redesign to me are the most interesting, others praise new features that apply to their wants and needs.

If the production version has problems ala the M8 deal, then there will be plenty room for complaint.
 
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Bart_van_der_Wolf

pro member
Asher Kelman said:
Bart,

The main margin winners are Canon!
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No doubt, but I also saved 700 Euros by not letting the dealer dictate a fashionable price.

I doubt that anyone will be able to keep proces aboove the $4,000 since with email and the internet, any lower price will be overnight the norm!
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Quite likely. Current pricing for the 1D3 in the Netherlands, from reputable dealers, is currently at EUR 4149 incl. 19% VAT (VAT is basically applicable only for end users). Availability is said to be in April.

Bart
 
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dhphoto

New member
Jane Auburn said:
I don't care whether it's priced at $50. I'm not buying one. I'm done with the upgrade mania.
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I certainly can't see that it is worth a whole third more than a 1D2N

I'll be sticking with my 5D for still subjects and my 1DIIN for ones that move

David
 
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Peter Galbavy

Member
So, in the UK (where there is no enforced RRP by law - yeah, right!) the price will probably be £3,500 + VAT. That fits right in with Canon's normal UK pricing model. Anyone know better ? Are we going to have to exercise our EU purchasing rights (again) ?
 
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Ken Tanaka

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Jane Auburn said:
I don't care whether it's priced at $50. I'm not buying one. I'm done with the upgrade mania.
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Good for you, Jane!

The 1DIII looks like a terrific new milestone for digital photography. But I, too, am very satisfied with the bodies I have and don't need this new model in the foreseeable future.
 
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Tom Henkel

New member
Two comments....

1. It is not uncommon for various dealers to premium price new products. B&H has done that with new lenses for years. Once the initial demand passes, prices will stablize. The big question is how much a premium are you willing to pay to be an early owner of a MkIII?

2. I agree Canon needs to start paying more attention to it's image. First the rebate situation, now this apparent backtracking on list price. Regardless of the underlying reasons, these sorts of things can really drag down a company's image. And once your image is damaged, it can take a long time to rebuild it. It really seems that both the rebate fiasco and this pricing fax pas are the result of someone inside Canon not really paying attention. It's really sad -- Canon seems to continue do well on the technical side of the house (the Mk III was a very solid announcement) but keeps shooting itself in the foot on the marketing side.

Tom
 
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dhphoto

New member
Peter Galbavy said:
So, in the UK (where there is no enforced RRP by law - yeah, right!) the price will probably be £3,500 + VAT. That fits right in with Canon's normal UK pricing model. Anyone know better ? Are we going to have to exercise our EU purchasing rights (again) ?
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£2,999 at Warehouse Express

David
 
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Carl Harsch

New member
I'm fairly sure that the 1D MK II was also listed at $4499 MSRP. Street prices fall after the initial surges. I'm sure the street price of the MK III will follow suit.
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Carl Harsch said:
I'm fairly sure that the 1D MK II was also listed at $4499 MSRP. Street prices fall after the initial surges. I'm sure the street price of the MK III will follow suit.
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$4500 is what I paid!

When the price fell, I justified it by the joy I had!

Asher
 
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Anthony Arkadia

New member
Conclusion

Carl Harsch said:
I'm fairly sure that the 1D MK II was also listed at $4499 MSRP. Street prices fall after the initial surges. I'm sure the street price of the MK III will follow suit.
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You are 100% correct, however that is for the 1dmkII, the ORIGINAL white paper, states it will be listed at the same price in which the canon EOS 1dmkIIn was listed at $3,999. I quote page 63 of the "ORIGINAL" white paper in quotation below. Regardless of all the wonderful new features, it is still image quality that counts. Introducing this camera in a 10MP makes it already outdated before it's reception. I think if this camera ever came in at 12.8MP it would have been a grand slam. Canon is making it clear that they do not want you to be happy with a one camera for all type of situation, and if they applied the 5D's sensor to this camera, which they could have done easily, it would be the last camera for many a folk. Were they dropped the ball is that most serious photogs would have purchased two of them, myself included.
I hate to say this but for the first time i am actually looking forward to see what Nikon is going to come out with, more than i am waiting for the 1dsmkIII. I will not fore come to any Conclusion about the 1dmkIII image capabilities until i have the opportunity to address a RAW file myself, at which time i will then decide. These are just my opinions and nothing more, please do not take, nor make any assumptions from my context.

XII. CONCLUSION 63
The EOS-1D Mark III is the ultimate instrument for high pressure, high-speed photography,
and it can do much, much more. It has the image quality, the ease of control, the speed
and the flexibility to adapt brilliantly to just about any condition. Features such as the new
integrated cleaning system make it easier to live with. With Live View, the possibilities
are limited only by the imagination. The Dual DIGIC III Image Processors give it dazzling
speed and the 14-bit output will help to make superb prints and magnificent magazine
spreads. The battery data is a source of reassurance. Additions such as safety shift, highlight
tone priority and high ISO noise reduction make stress-free success a given.
The retail price of the EOS-1D Mark III at introduction will be $3,999, the same price at
which the EOS-1D Mark II N debuted. Considering all the improvements and meaningful
new functions, the new camera is a stunning deal whether it replaces or adds to existing
equipment, or represents the beginning of a great new adventure.
DSLR cameras are mature products today; people in the market for one have clear
expectations and requirements. Looking forward, it seems that the EOS–1D Mark III has
everything most working photographers could want for years to come: the best autofocus,
the lowest noise and the best high ISO performance, beautiful color and excellent
resolution, ease of use and thoughtful controls, exceptional reliability, an extensive system,
highly controllable flash, and a little less weight, too.
Because the value and the performance are so strong, Canon can expect to sell the
EOS-1D Mark III to serious photographers of every stripe. Certainly, they will grow even
more delighted with the camera over time.
3 Actual prices are set by dealers and may vary.
Contents ©2007 by Canon U.S.A., Inc. All Rights Reserved. Canon, EOS, DIGIC, PIXMA and SELPHY are registered
trademarks of Canon Inc. in the United States, and may also be registered trademarks or trademarks in other
countries. All other products and brand names are registered trademarks, trademarks or service marks of their
respective owners.
Excerpts from this material may be quoted in published product reviews and articles. For further information,
please contact Canon U.S.A., Inc. Public Relations Dept., (516) 328-5000
XII. CONCLUSION
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