full ( architecture ) resolution shots from e75

i posted on my website some shots in full resolution, done with the new sinar e75 back and sinaron lenses.
details you can read at the site....
i think i havent seen better files than the e75 together with this lenses can delliver......

http://www.tangential.de/e75-testshots/

Hi Rainer.

I think that is a very bad system you have there. It encourages pixel peeping. For example, if you go to the top right photo, zoom in on the lighted room in corner of the building on the left, you can practically read the labels on the box files on the book shelf on the far side of that room.

How do you deal with dust on sensors of this size? Do I get a prize for finding some?

Amazing.

Best wishes,

Ray

hi ray,
no price... i am sorry this time...
i worked fast on the files and you might find the one or other dust spot. in general with mf sensors this is not a great deal,- if you are not as lazy as me, which is found very rarely under photographers who use this tools....

for me a great improvement with the e75 over the 22mp back generation are these things:
with the e22 you could have ( as also with all kodak sensors and with the leaf which use the same sensor ) magenta-green casts under fluorescent lights, which are very difficult to correct.

the e75 works perfect under all light conditions ( its the first back i know which does this ).
the higher resoltution results in nearly no moiree. it can appear but it is very very rare, with the e22 using the HR lenses you could have often moirees,- not so often wiith less sharp lenses as the hassy lenses or the "normal" sinar digital lenses.
there are no color frings, magenta halos , moiree or christmas trees without any postpro treatment , thats really great. especially if you use the set together with lenses which dont have CA, as the schneider or sinar digital lenses.

one till two stops more sensitivity, compared with the e22 ( the leaf aptus22 is similar here, also it seems they rate their iso higher so they have higher nominal iso in the aptus22 and the 75 ).

with the right lenses resolution reach drumscanned 4x5" film, but with better quality in colors ( mostly ), dynamic and the other advantages of digital.

Hi Rainier,

The image I mentioned before, with the box files, any chance you could post a crop of that area at the original 48bit? tif resolution.

Best wishes,

Ray

Bonjour Rainer
impressive! really interesting to know and see.

I'd like to shoot boats with such resolution! But I'm affraid I cannot afford this system.

Thanks for posting these samples.

Hi Nicolas,

The frightening??? thing is that in ten years time, pont and shoots may be better than this. The sensor is not that much larger than the 5D. There will probably be a 'break through' in the technology in a few years time, maybe some effect not yet thought of.

as is, I reckon you could virtually stand on the French coast, and take photo's of Cowes races (island land mass, heat haze excluded, of course). (may need a bit of pp, 'tho.)

Best wishes,

Ray

Ray
Sorry, I don't understand, my English is not so good, these files are 33 Mpix, sensor 36x48mm (double than the 1Ds Mark II)...
Even if I do a 'crl +' to my bank account, I will not be able to justify such investment for my job, so I'll wait for the 1 Ds Mk 3.
I've downloaded 2 of these files and with some work on sharpness and on shadows, you can't imagine the amount of detail you can get, without forgetting the "lack" of distorsion as well as fringes and all kind of C.A.s.
I'm amazed.
BTW I'm almost 54, I can't wait for 10 years! I want, wish, need the future NOW! not tomorrow...
C'mon Ray!

PS I'd love to shoot Cowes races, but not from French coast, but being, close, so close and shoot the boats with my 12mm. Then the power of sail just blows you out. I love also Cowes light, I've watch "Beken of Cowes" photographs since I was a kid, he's one the bases. Great photographer. The One for sail boats.
He! I'll Google his name tonight and try to see some photos of the Master.

half of the deal are the lenses for me, thats the real point where 35mm sucks for architecture, and there the imaginative point+ shoots will have still their problems in 10 years .....
( and the 1ds3 also ),- if distortionfree lenses are needed. for the job, i think aside from hi-end advertisement ( cars ) there are not so many regions where you will need this resolution.

rainer viertlböck said:

half of the deal are the lenses for me, thats the real point where 35mm sucks for architecture.

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I agree, even if we can correct a lot with softwares, it is of course destroying the quality of pixels, this is why I prefer DXo as it works on raw, but it would be far easier and comfortable to have no distortion straight out of the body camera.
I'm still waiting, as many others, for a great prime extra wide lense in the 12 to 15 mm range (full frame, this is why I don't beleive Nikon will be able to build that wide lense).

for the job, i think aside from hi-end advertisement ( cars ) there are not so many regions where you will need this resolution.

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Sorry Rainer but on this point I do not agree with you, I need that resolution every second of my work, I like to print very LARGE format (ask Asher...) and there the more resolution you get...
I'm totally convinced that large size print are a big part of the future of photography. Photography, not pics.

If you add back, body, lenses, software, what kind of budget are we talking ?

Hi Nicolas,


My English is not too good, either. I was born in Devon, in the UK, and have lived in the South West of UK ever since.... nearly 60 years now, young man ;-)

My comments in general, referred to the physical size of the sensor, I thought it would be about 5 by 4 inches. In ten years, they will probably be beyond that size, considering the ever increasing rate of development in electronics.

I downloaded some of the images too, and agree with you. However, they were jpegs, and I've asked Rainier if he could put up a particular crop of one as a tiff, or did I miss something - in other words did you get tiffs???

Its a funny old life, I think I'd prefer the familiarity and comfort of the past, see if I could get through the sixties and have some fun, instead of studying.... (Thats the 1960's - if you can remember them, you weren't there!)

My sister used to live on IoW, I was there once - about 35 years ago... for Cowes week - couldn't move, crowds of visitors, +1.

Best wishes,

Ray (ctrl + got me to senior member ...tarah...)

Nicolas Claris said:

I love also Cowes light, I've watch "Beken of Cowes" photographs since I was a kid, he's one the bases. Great photographer. The One for sail boats.

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I, of course, were talking about Frank Beken and his son Keith...

Ray West said:

My comments in general, referred to the physical size of the sensor, I thought it would be about 5 by 4 inches.

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I'm not sure that this size of sensor does exists, at least for commercialised cameras...

Ray West said:

I've asked Rainier if he could put up a particular crop of one as a tiff, or did I miss something - in other words did you get tiffs???

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No I got the jpegs that are on line, but they were compressed (guess by their size) on level 9 of PS, which let keep good viewing.

Ray West said:

Its a funny old life, I think I'd prefer the familiarity and comfort of the past, see if I could get through the sixties and have some fun, instead of studying.... (Thats the 1960's - if you can remember them, you weren't there!)

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Yes I do remember (the end of sixties) being in Selsey Bill learning English with a funny family during the 1965 Summer, feeling so free! bringing back the new Beatles record and bluff my young freinds; then later the big hope of 1968 in Paris...
But these are just souvenirs, nice but far, I do prefer to look forward, this will keep me standing up!

Ray West said:

My sister used to live on IoW, I was there once - about 35 years ago... for Cowes week - couldn't move, crowds of visitors, +1.

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Last (and first time) I went there was during summer 1979, I don't remember meeting your sister! qwhat a shame for me... Was crowdy on shore, but not that much on the sea where I prefer to be for shooting boats ;-) (the other good place is in an helicopter)

Ray West said:

(ctrl + got me to senior member ...tarah...)

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tarah...tarah...tarah...tarah...tarah... a little important detail happens and one get happy!
I'm glad I helped you to get there!

Cheers!!!

Hi Nicolas,

This is off the original topic, I think I'll restart in the layback cafe, if that's OK.

subject - google earth. etc.

Ray West said:

Hi Nicolas,

This is off the original topic, I think I'll restart in the layback cafe, if that's OK.

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You're fully right, I've bee away from moderating because I had to dig too deep in my memory!
Let's move to layback coffee and leave the place for the original poster... sorry Rainer

Hi Rainer,

I don't know if you saw my earlier request, sorry we pulled it a bit ot, but could you link to a cropped tiff of the window area I mentioned earlier. please? I think there would be more detail even than in the jpeg.

Best wishes,

Ray

hi ray, i will do so but give me some time ...
no,- the increase in detail will not be visible. the jpegs results in a reduced color rendition, at stage 9or 10 comression as are this images the detail stays the same for my eyes.

File info

Hi Rainier,

Very impressing images, I think Sinar will be the first choice when it´s time to upgrade the Kodak Back for my Contax.

Not a big issue but the File Info (IPTC) in your images says Emotion 22, is this automate generated by the camera back?

Best regards,

Tomas Johanson

Tomas said:

Hi Rainier,

Very impressing images, I think Sinar will be the first choice when it´s time to upgrade the Kodak Back for my Contax.

Not a big issue but the File Info (IPTC) in your images says Emotion 22, is this automate generated by the camera back?

Best regards,

Tomas Johanson

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no, by the raw converter, which reads it still wrong.