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Michael Fontana
April 16th, 2009, 03:51 AM
One of yesterday's shot; I wonder if someone not knowing the place understands the image, or is it to much in one packet?

http://imago.macbay.de/OPF/E+S_Rickenbach_23B_c.jpg

Bart_van_der_Wolf
April 16th, 2009, 06:32 AM
One of yesterday's shot; I wonder if someone not knowing the place understands the image, or is it to much in one packet?

Hi Micheal,

It's a good question, because one can get too involved with the subject to remain objective.

To me the image shows an interesting play of lines and surfaces/structures, but I get a little lost due to an absent floor or stair steps at the bottom edge. The composition itself is nice, and you managed to create balanced lighting, but I assume there is more to the intent than producing a nice image.

Bart

Cedric MASSOULIER
April 16th, 2009, 06:33 AM
Hi,

For me composition is quite clear. Nice light. HDR treatment ?

Michael Fontana
April 16th, 2009, 08:14 AM
Thanks Bart and Cedric

yep Bart, you' re right:
it's not about creating a nice image, but if the space can still be °read° - even the perspectiv is not to common. To show the roof with the windows and the staircase, that was the goal of the shooting.

He're the two other possibilities, unconverted: while the first would be ok, apart from lacking the roof, the 2nd is s a mixte salade.....

http://imago.macbay.de/OPF/alternativ.jpg

Cedric, you' re correct too; a very slight portion of enfuse!

Jack_Flesher
April 16th, 2009, 08:27 AM
Understandable, but too heavy HDR or perhaps just too heavy on the shadow slider for my tastes.

Michael Fontana
April 16th, 2009, 09:56 AM
Jack

yep, enfusing opened the shadow a bit to much; I °painted° back some of the original image parth, but not the shadows. The light has been soft, though, there isn't a big difference between the middle exposure and the enfused one.

Jack_Flesher
April 16th, 2009, 10:42 AM
Jack

yep, enfusing opened the shadow a bit to much; I °painted° back some of the original image parth, but not the shadows. The light has been soft, though, there isn't a big difference between the middle exposure and the enfused one.


FWIW, I pulled it into CS and added a fair bit of midtone contrast and a touch of saturation, and it looks a lot more appealing, at least to my eye...

Ken Tanaka
April 16th, 2009, 10:53 AM
Michael; Yes, it took me a few seconds but the stairway railings provided the decoding key.

In my opinion the potential power of such an image is its abstract/expressionist qualities. It doesn't work, as such, in its current rendering but it could be coaxed to be a rather interesting field of lines, tones, and textures with a little mousework.

Michael Fontana
April 16th, 2009, 03:04 PM
Thanks Ken

well, the abstract-expressionist-version was less the starting point than the real, rather difficult situation plus the attitude to melt it into a good image, while beeing aware of the limitations.

If the roof with the red and transparent tiles would be flat (horizontal), and more neutral, it would be much easier to read the space.

We'll see which version the architect will chose.

Paul Abbott
September 21st, 2009, 12:44 AM
Michael, this in B&W will confuse even more. It'd work great. For me, it doesn't need understanding, just appreciation, its a great photograph.
The stairway is a giveaway to you rotating the image, but the window on the far left puts this in doubt a little.
Anyway, by now you have held my interest, and thats what a great photograph does really.

Regards.

Michael Fontana
September 21st, 2009, 04:48 AM
Well Paul
right, in B&W it's another beast, but it then should be edited quite different.


As that shot was taken during a assignement, that's been the reason for my initial question.

The architect took that shot into his portfolio, at the beginning, he thought it would be not enough conventionel or readable, but with a second glance, he started to like it.

Michael Fontana
September 21st, 2009, 09:59 AM
ok, Paul here's that version, beeing edited straight in the Rconverter to B&W:

http://imago.macbay.de/OPF/entry_B&W.jpg

and here the comparison in color, first version:

http://imago.macbay.de/OPF/E+S_Rickenbach_23B_c.jpg

I know that it is not the same, but I prefer the color version.

Mike Shimwell
September 21st, 2009, 03:59 PM
Michael

Actually I like the B&W version, but in part that's down to the higher contrast giving the image form. I also carried the colour image over to PS and increased the contrast - local and global - and saturation a little and found it easier to read and more appealing. Back to the enfuse shadows.

Mike