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Mark Hampton August 4th, 2010 12:52 PM

Reading the reading
 
After posting some images – and briefly touching on some research that I had read and found interesting I have put a few links together.

The basic idea of the research is to track where the gaze is directed at – this measure as with all is not 100% accurate – but it does give you a mean to begin.

The Artists Gaze
http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedai..._different.php

Rembrandt and eye tracking
http://eyetrackingupdate.com/2010/06...-eye-tracking/

Web design
http://styleguide.yahoo.com/writing/...ers-look-first

http://eyetrackingupdate.com/2010/07...-web-usability

Practical usage that slightly freaks me out
http://www.artandads.com/tag/eye-tracking/

hope people find this interesting

Mark Hampton October 14th, 2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 101253)
After posting some images – and briefly touching on some research that I had read and found interesting I have put a few links together.

The basic idea of the research is to track where the gaze is directed at – this measure as with all is not 100% accurate – but it does give you a mean to begin.

The Artists Gaze
http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedai..._different.php

Rembrandt and eye tracking
http://eyetrackingupdate.com/2010/06...-eye-tracking/

Web design
http://styleguide.yahoo.com/writing/...ers-look-first

http://eyetrackingupdate.com/2010/07...-web-usability

Practical usage that slightly freaks me out
http://www.artandads.com/tag/eye-tracking/

hope people find this interesting

128 - 0 not a bad score !!

Mark Hampton March 3rd, 2011 06:18 PM

So the realism train is leaving from platform 5 -

soft focus with a small amount of detail is closer than was realized to our perceptions of reality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foveated_imaging

there are alot of studies on the above btw - start to work with Foveated images and algorithms (if someone can bring a program or link to a program I will be indebted) in google and put this into play with eye tracking - I have not looked at brain scans in relation to this - I dinny huv the time at the moment....

so the circle turns -

f64 = a hell of alot of entropy and becomes an imagined playground of the mystics

cheers

Jim Galli March 3rd, 2011 11:17 PM

Mark,

We been foveatin' when foveatin' wasn't cool.

That's exactly what a Petzval type lens does on large format and also why they were the instument of choice in portrait studio's for 100 years.


Done on full plate with a Gundlach projector petzval of at least 90 years ago

Mark Hampton March 4th, 2011 12:06 AM

Jim,

I really like the image thanks for posting and cheering up my arid thread...

The idea is not to be cool it is to have a reason outside of photographic tradition for the choice of photographic language - also when the outsiders become the establishment they need challenged.

As you point out fov -eating is not a new idea... none of what I have put in this thread is. It is to me only perhaps a way of collecting and sharing what informs the very basis how I approach picture making and then the reading of the image.

post some more fov -eating wonders !

cheers

Mark Hampton March 9th, 2011 02:31 PM

man I thought I had someone hooked !







Jim Galli March 9th, 2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 111941)
man I thought I had someone hooked !








Play.study.mumble - M Hampton



lol, post something perfectly awful with billions of details down to the gnat's butt and oversaturated colors and you'll get some hits. Especially if she's naked. The gnat, I mean.

Mike Shimwell March 9th, 2011 04:16 PM

detail schmeetail



Interesting thread actually, but more clever than I can comment on at the moment.

Mike

Mark Hampton March 10th, 2011 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Galli (Post 111945)
lol, post something perfectly awful with billions of details down to the gnat's butt and oversaturated colors and you'll get some hits. Especially if she's naked. The gnat, I mean.

Jim, thats what the image was of ! the dot in the upper left is naked midgie.! I should have put a NSFW tag on this...

Mark Hampton March 10th, 2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Shimwell (Post 111948)
detail schmeetail



Interesting thread actually, but more clever than I can comment on at the moment.

Mike


Mike,

there are more than enough moments and thoughts in the image above to keep up my interest .. more detail would be redundant to me in most of this picture... thanks for posting !

cheers

cheers

Mark Hampton March 22nd, 2011 01:00 PM

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...oom/33333f.jpg

oration of nits with gnats - M Hampton

Mark Hampton March 24th, 2011 05:15 PM

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and so it moves through the hair - seeking outs its place of rest.

cheers

Mark Hampton April 4th, 2011 03:28 PM

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Asher Kelman April 4th, 2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 113405)


This is a rich triptych that catches different expressions of this woman in thought. The gaps allow us to imagine her movements in between the three pictures and this is a powerful effect that impresses me. where have we seen this before?

Asher

Jim Galli April 4th, 2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 113405)
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- M Hampton



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I love this, and probably for all the wrong reasons. Usually when I love something, it's not a good sign for the would be artiste.

Asher Kelman April 4th, 2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Galli (Post 113408)
I love this, and probably for all the wrong reasons. Usually when I love something, it's not a good sign for the would be artiste.

Jim,

That's an anachronism to add to your uniquely nurtured character! So what exactly are these reasons?

Asher

Jim Galli April 5th, 2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Asher Kelman (Post 113413)
Jim,

That's an anachronism to add to your uniquely nurtured character! So what exactly are these reasons?

Asher

I think it's a lovely sentimental and sensitive portrait of a person crossing over from fall to winter. Lovely, Sentimental, Sensitive are all anti-art. Usually if I like it, it's like having Rush Limbaugh giving a good critique to a liberal.

Mark Hampton April 5th, 2011 10:35 AM

Jim,

It is all you outlined and an image of my mother. The images were made on mothers day. Through the lines on her face and the humanity in her eyes a story has been told.

There is a little bit of humor in there as well - when my mother takes a picture she always cuts the top of the head off - always - with every camera she has ever used.

This thread is about reading - how we read images in a physical way but also in a physiological way - as a viewer you would never get the humor in the images but you have read the complexity of the expression and you relate it to your idea of the person through my made portrait.

i am an artist who uses photography - maybe the images are anti photography - it doesn't matter. Thanks for the replies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Galli (Post 113436)
I think it's a lovely sentimental and sensitive portrait of a person crossing over from fall to winter. Lovely, Sentimental, Sensitive are all anti-art. Usually if I like it, it's like having Rush Limbaugh giving a good critique to a liberal.


Mark Hampton April 6th, 2011 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asher Kelman (Post 113407)
This is a rich triptych that catches different expressions of this woman in thought. The gaps allow us to imagine her movements in between the three pictures and this is a powerful effect that impresses me. where have we seen this before?

Asher

Asher,

Thanks for the feedback on this, the majority of my work is based on more than one image. Sometimes within a single image and sometimes like this in a series. The space between things seems as important as thing it’s self. The gaps / cuts appear in frequently in my work - the intention in this work was to split the last picture diagonally, I just haven’t got round to yet.

cheers

Mark Hampton April 17th, 2011 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 113467)
Asher,

Thanks for the feedback on this, the majority of my work is based on more than one image. Sometimes within a single image and sometimes like this in a series. The space between things seems as important as thing it’s self. The gaps / cuts appear in frequently in my work - the intention in this work was to split the last picture diagonally, I just haven’t got round to yet.

cheers

back from Spain - where it was hot...





will post a bit more about this in travel - but it works within this thread.

cheers

Jerome Marot April 22nd, 2011 01:07 PM

This is a very clever use of depth of field (most obvious between the two first images, but also between the second and third). I might be tempted to copy that idea at some point, if you don't mind...

Jerome Marot April 22nd, 2011 11:44 PM

In addition, this is a work for which I needed to come back and take more time to examine it. I did not notice the reflexions in the last picture at first. I also like very much that the last pictures appears to be a continuation of the second at first glance, because of the way they connect.

Mark Hampton April 23rd, 2011 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome Marot (Post 114143)
This is a very clever use of depth of field (most obvious between the two first images, but also between the second and third). I might be tempted to copy that idea at some point, if you don't mind...

Jerome,

Thanks for the thoughts on this. Ideas don't belong to people, if take something from my work then it a compliment because it means that the work has worked.

I will post a full size version on my photobucket and Pm you a link.

thanks for looking in and commenting.

cheers

Mark Hampton May 18th, 2011 01:47 PM

Hi hi,

Just over a year ago I started a thread - SSSi - As i said at the time I would go back and visit the place again... the time of year is again upon me... I was going to place these works in there but they fit here...





thanks for looking in !


hope I get some more time to post on others threads.

cheers

Edward Bussa May 18th, 2011 04:02 PM

Does this apply?
 
Giving into my narcissistic side, I began thinking about my own work and whether or not I had unwittingly foveated any of my own pictures.

It seems macro work could be considered foveated?

This picture is part of a body of work I've been working on trying to decide when where and how to get feedback on it... but I think it applies to the thread, as in, it can be considered foveated?

http://www.threadster.com/opf/trillium-fov.jpg

Jerome Marot May 18th, 2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 115397)
Hi hi,

Just over a year ago I started a thread - SSSi - As i said at the time I would go back and visit the place again... the time of year is again upon me... I was going to place these works in there but they fit here...



This is a link to that thread:

http://www.openphotographyforums.com...ad.php?t=11821




I think I can see where you are heading to, but I am not so sure that the first and last picture should have the same white half-circle at the bottom. I find it disturbs the flow.

Mark Hampton May 19th, 2011 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Bussa (Post 115410)
Giving into my narcissistic side, I began thinking about my own work and whether or not I had unwittingly foveated any of my own pictures.

It seems macro work could be considered foveated?

This picture is part of a body of work I've been working on trying to decide when where and how to get feedback on it... but I think it applies to the thread, as in, it can be considered foveated?

http://www.threadster.com/opf/trillium-fov.jpg

Ed,

It belongs in here, It would be good to c a few more and how the focus relates between the images. Did you take that into account when you were making the work?

post away please !

cheers

Mark Hampton May 19th, 2011 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome Marot (Post 115425)
This is a link to that thread:

http://www.openphotographyforums.com...ad.php?t=11821




I think I can see where you are heading to, but I am not so sure that the first and last picture should have the same white half-circle at the bottom. I find it disturbs the flow.

Jerome,

I ken what you mean about the flow - in this case I think these will not be in a single frame - 3 separate - I am going back out soon to work on more and have some more ideas that have come from this work...

thanks for the feedback on this, its appreciated

cheers

Edward Bussa May 19th, 2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hampton (Post 115455)
Ed,
It would be good to c a few more and how the focus relates between the images. Did you take that into account when you were making the work?

In a sense, yes. The focus relates because it was chosen by me in each instance. I did have some guiding thoughts in mind as I took the images, but I did not use a strict interpretation of those guiding thoughts...

I am going for a bike ride right now and then away for the weekend. If I get a chance between now and then I will post another....

Edward Bussa May 22nd, 2011 05:12 PM

Another:

http://www.threadster.com/opf/trillium-fov-1.jpg


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