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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:48 PM
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...... I think perhaps I need you to have a chat with my bank manager and my wife :)

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In the other order I suspect? (unless they're one and the same). £1449 is the best I can find at the moment.
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Don't worry about the ' and the ` .

Simple in comparison to what many people envy really, macro and other attributes. My main interest is sport so my needs, my desires are tailored towards that. As long as I can shoot sport I'm happy !
Ah, the secret! Your interest is sport, so you make pictures of what you love.

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Old February 3rd, 2012, 04:24 PM
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In the other order I suspect? (unless they're one and the same). £1449 is the best I can find at the moment.
You could buy a Shen HAo 5/4 and a lens for that. Tilt and shift always available and live view focusing included for free:)
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Old February 4th, 2012, 01:58 AM
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Default since we're talking about envy.....

I have been wanting an affordable 3oomm prime for awhile now. Picked up a nikkor 300mm f4.5 AIS today.

Here is one of the first exposures taken with it mounted on the D90.




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Old February 4th, 2012, 05:16 AM
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In the other order I suspect? (unless they're one and the same). £1449 is the best I can find at the moment.
Yes indeed - the other order would probably be best.


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You could buy a Shen HAo 5/4 and a lens for that. Tilt and shift always available and live view focusing included for free:)
I have wondered about going down that route in the past - however I think I am too fond of digital!


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Old February 6th, 2012, 01:40 AM
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Likely as not, "relatively cheap" in the U.K. is going to be more than the cost of the new lens here in the States. I think that the MF Pentax lenses are going to be less expensive the UK as who wants them, but there are stellar and can be used for the Eos with an inexpensive adapter.

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I bought my Takumar Super 50mm for less from the states including shipping than I could have got it for in the UK.
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Old February 6th, 2012, 08:47 AM
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For example, there is not 24-70 f/2.8 zoom with IS either and you can be sure that there is an ample supply of customers for such a lens.
Well... I posted that not so long ago and look what Tamron has announced:

Tamron develops full-size, high-speed standard zoom with built-in image stabilization – SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD
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Old February 28th, 2012, 03:10 PM
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i am looking at an in AF lenses atm - I need the af so my wife and son can use the system without too much to think about - thinking about the 85mm 1.4 .. and the 200mm 2.8 both canons...

on 35mm film I used a 200mm zoom - almost all of my work was @ 200mm.. i loved the feel of compression that the focal length gives...

anyones thoughts and advice would be cool / or not!

as for lust - ha .. give me the 85 mm 1.2 canon and as lust is best when it's directed at something that cannot exist give me a 200mm f0

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Old March 7th, 2012, 09:33 AM
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Just after I sold a 17-40mm because of lack of use, I've being asked to do some interior photos. Looking around for my options of getting a good lens for this (renting or whatever), I came across these lenses that are out of any realistic possibility for me, but they are so damn sexy!

http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/lens_...0Mount%20Types

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Old March 7th, 2012, 11:18 AM
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Just after I sold a 17-40mm because of lack of use, I've being asked to do some interior photos. Looking around for my options of getting a good lens for this (renting or whatever), I came across these lenses that are out of any realistic possibility for me, but they are so damn sexy!

http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/lens_...0Mount%20Types

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Ruben,

What camera system do you have to go with it?

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Old March 7th, 2012, 12:09 PM
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Just after I sold a 17-40mm because of lack of use, I've being asked to do some interior photos. Looking around for my options of getting a good lens for this (renting or whatever), I came across these lenses that are out of any realistic possibility for me, but they are so damn sexy!
Hi Ruben,

A warning about hartblei.com, they do not sell the Hartblei lenses anymore. One either needs to contact the German or Ukraine representatives, and the German branch is the only one selling real Zeiss formulated rebuilds Here is some more background on the Who-is-Who.

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Old March 7th, 2012, 09:03 PM
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What camera system do you have to go with it?

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Hi Asher,

I use Canon, their website specify several lens mounts, including EOS and FD.

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Old March 7th, 2012, 09:30 PM
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Hi Ruben,

A warning about hartblei.com, they do not sell the Hartblei lenses anymore. One either needs to contact the German or Ukraine representatives, and the German branch is the only one selling real Zeiss formulated rebuilds Here is some more background on the Who-is-Who.

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Hmm.. that's interesting Bart. As I said, right now I don't really need that lens and I cannot afford it anyway. BUT, things may change at any moment, who knows? I already have a TSE-90, tilt-shift controls are really cool and the IQ is superb. The 24mm is so expensive, if I ever feel like I can really justify spending that much for a wider tilt-shift, I'd consider the Hartblei 35mm as a serious candidate, from hartblei.de I guess :).

Edit: Well, after posting here I went to hartblei.de. A whole different story, different products, and different prices!

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Old March 7th, 2012, 10:25 PM
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The 24mm is so expensive
Rumor is that Samyang is preparing an inexpensive tilt-shift 24mm.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:52 AM
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I already have a TSE-90, tilt-shift controls are really cool and the IQ is superb.

Ruben,

How much do you use the lens? I have the 24 mm TS/E II and find that this alone is good for so much, from full length portraits of groups to interiors or even slower shots. I don't have the 90 mm version, but I'd imagine just that one lens can open up a lot of artistic opportunities unique to that lens. Is it really practical to own an additional lens in terms of actual production of new work?

I'm finding that, at least for artwork, I do best with sticking to less lenses!

OTOH, if I was doing interiors again, the 17mm TS.E would be very attractive. See I don't listen to my own advice. There's always some seduction that overcomes logic! We flirt with lenses!

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Old March 8th, 2012, 06:46 AM
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Ruben,

How much do you use the lens? I have the 24 mm TS/E II and find that this alone is good for so much, from full length portraits of groups to interiors or even slower shots. I don't have the 90 mm version, but I'd imagine just that one lens can open up a lot of artistic opportunities unique to that lens. Is it really practical to own an additional lens in terms of actual production of new work?

I'm finding that, at least for artwork, I do best with sticking to less lenses!

OTOH, if I was doing interiors again, the 17mm TS.E would be very attractive. See I don't listen to my own advice. There's always some seduction that overcomes logic! We flirt with lenses!
Hi Asher,

Flirting can be dangerous ;-)

However, stitching with the TS-E 24mm will produce superior resolution results compared to the TS-E 17mm, and it's easy to match or even exceed the Field of View of the 17mm, by just adding tiles.

The TS-E 90mm is a wonderful lens, compact, simple optical construction and thus high contrast, and will produce even more stitched resolution, also for reprowork at an angle. The longer focal length and Tilt can also be exploited for macro photography. All that's needed is an extender or an extension tube.

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Hi Asher,

Flirting can be dangerous ;-)
But does allow one to find information that otherwise would be kept secret. Also, if one is fortunate, excellent models, tooL!

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However, stitching with the TS-E 24mm will produce superior resolution results compared to the TS-E 17mm, and it's easy to match or even exceed the Field of View of the 17mm, by just adding tiles.
That's been my assumption!

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The TS-E 90mm is a wonderful lens, compact, simple optical construction and thus high contrast, and will produce even more stitched resolution, also for reprowork at an angle. The longer focal length and Tilt can also be exploited for macro photography. All that's needed is an extender or an extension tube.
Because we now have live view and means of checking focus, AF is less critical and a lens becomes even more important for every day use. The idea of using it for macro is something I never thought of! In fact, the last time I used extension tubes was with my marvelous original Pentax with my 50 mm Super Takamur lens.

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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:20 AM
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I originally purchased a TS-E 90mm intending to use it for macro flower photography. Experimented a bit with the 1.4x extender and found that it worked very well. 25mm extension tube worked fine too, but that was a given. Oddly enough, I was so taken by the creative tilt/shift possibilities of the lens that I've drifted away from macro work. It is an incredibly versatile piece of equipment.
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How much do you use the lens? I have the 24 mm TS/E II and find that this alone is good for so much, from full length portraits of groups to interiors or even slower shots. I don't have the 90 mm version, but I'd imagine just that one lens can open up a lot of artistic opportunities unique to that lens. Is it really practical to own an additional lens in terms of actual production of new work?

I'm finding that, at least for artwork, I do best with sticking to less lenses!

OTOH, if I was doing interiors again, the 17mm TS.E would be very attractive. See I don't listen to my own advice. There's always some seduction that overcomes logic! We flirt with lenses!

Asher
Hi Asher,

I use the 90mm a lot, mostly for studio work, that's my favorite lens for food photography and is very convenient for shooting packaged products too. Adding a new lens won't bring more work, unless it is required for a specific project, but IMO, if you can afford it, it doesn't hurt to have more options and gain experience using a wider variety of lenses.

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The TS-E 90mm is a wonderful lens, compact, simple optical construction and thus high contrast, and will produce even more stitched resolution...
Cheers,
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I have done rudimentary experiments stitching (and bracketing) interior photos with this lens. PS Photomerge works like a charm with these files and there's little to none waste of pixels. I've even used it to stitch portraits, I'm gonna post one example in the portraits section.

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Recently I've been envying a 300mm prime for my lineup. I started out with a nice copy of a nikkor 300mm f4.5 AIS, returned it and through down few more bucks for a tamron sp 300mm f2.8 IF LD! Man is this Tamron huge compared to the nikkor. But yet I am still undecided....

I just might have to return this before it's 30 day period is up and test out a nikkor 10-24mm f3.5-4.5 AFS or the sigma 15-30mm f3.5-4.5 ex dg.
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Recently I've been envying a 300mm prime for my lineup. I started out with a nice copy of a nikkor 300mm f4.5 AIS, returned it and through down few more bucks for a tamron sp 300mm f2.8 IF LD! Man is this Tamron huge compared to the nikkor. But yet I am still undecided....

I just might have to return this before it's 30 day period is up and test out a nikkor 10-24mm f3.5-4.5 AFS or the sigma 15-30mm f3.5-4.5 ex dg.
Jake, I sold my 300 2.8L Canon lens because it simple was to heavy to use more than an hour. Then one still has to carry it! There's a lot to say for the f4.0 lenses.

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Can anyone talk me out of lusting after a 45mm PC for my Nikon before its too late and I waste my hard earnt pension on yet another toy?
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Your wife, I suppose?
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Why would that be the case?
Christine isn't the stereotypical wife. Not only is she beautiful, intelligent and caring she doesn't even ask me what I buy, nor does she expect me to tell her, and vise versa.
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Why would that be the case?
Because, even if she doesn't normally ask you what you buy nor expects you to tell her, she is a person closest to you than we can ever be?
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Because, even if she doesn't normally ask you what you buy nor expects you to tell her, she is a person closest to you than we can ever be?
You can say that again! Trouble is as soon as I get close to her i forget what I was going to talk about. She has that effect on me.
Oh, bugger it. No-one is any help here. I'll go buy it and be done -or not.
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Jake, I sold my 300 2.8L Canon lens because it simple was to heavy to use more than an hour. Then one still has to carry it! There's a lot to say for the f4.0 lenses.

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I'm waiting for a mint late model 300mm f4.5 if Ed ais, the version with the 9 bladed aperture. The weight of the fast f2.8 is just o much for my ball head. It was creeping all over!


Then again there is always the lust for the beautifull nikkor 200mm f2 if Ed ais!
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Can anyone talk me out of lusting after a 45mm PC for my Nikon before its too late and I waste my hard earnt pension on yet another toy?
ken rockwell could i guess - no idea who he is but i asked google your question

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/45mm-pc-e.htm

"This is a very special purpose lens for people too lazy to haul out a view camera, or too cheap to spring for a real digital back for that view camera like the Phase One. "

does that sound like you ?
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There are 2 that I am waiting for:

EF 300mm f4L IS USM MK II

EF 100-400mm f4-5.6 L IS USM MK II (internal zoom)


and wishing for:

EF 24-70mm f2.8L IS USM

EF 16-35mm f2.8 L IS USM


and any non IS upgrade to IS.
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