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Old January 16th, 2014, 11:43 PM
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Old January 17th, 2014, 12:00 AM
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I wish it were for real, Nicolas. I fear this is like seeing aPolaroid camera or printer. It's just this


and that could be made by any Asian camera-churning company.

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Old January 17th, 2014, 01:19 AM
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AFAIK they are made buy http://www.asia-optical.com
But at least it means that Kodak wishes to stay around…
Does Apple makes its iPhones and iPads?
Does Sinar had his own factory for there HY6?
Subcontracting is a management tool widely used in the Industry!
More and more brands have research and marketing in house and do subcontract the making…
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Old January 18th, 2014, 10:51 AM
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AFAIK they are made buy http://www.asia-optical.com
But at least it means that Kodak wishes to stay around…
Does Apple makes its iPhones and iPads?
Does Sinar had his own factory for there HY6?
Subcontracting is a management tool widely used in the Industry!
More and more brands have research and marketing in house and do subcontract the making…
Well, it's a venerable name, "Kodak"!

Hassleblad is no longer the Hasselblad of the early days and Cosina has the Voigtlander badge and does well with it. Zeiss and Leica are badged on other cameras too.

I'd just wish they did film too, this new company. They are very capable in optics of course, but not film, unfortunately!!

Recycling of brand names does help. but the word "licensed" on the badge is not so good!

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Old January 18th, 2014, 11:10 AM
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Well, the use of the venerable name will not last long if the gear is not at the good level.
There are so many media, specialized magazines, fora, that consumers (client in other word) will be quickly aware…
Licensing may bring some good money to the brand to help developing new/other products… or just pay the bills and salaries!
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Old January 18th, 2014, 11:47 AM
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Well, the use of the venerable name will not last long if the gear is not at the good level.
There are so many media, specialized magazines, fora, that consumers (client in other word) will be quickly aware…
Licensing may bring some good money to the brand to help developing new/other products… or just pay the bills and salaries!

You're right, Nicolas! Kodak has invented so much technology and somehow lost the leading edge to exploit their own genius! however, they have always been great at licensing! but when fuji uses their technology for Xray live view imaging or film from digital imaging, no disclosure of the source of the ideas are given in the fuji medical products.

Xerox to has been an amazing inventor but very inefficient exploiter of its brain power and engineering prowess! As executives of Kodak, Xerox lacked the missing ingredient, vision of the value of what they have in their hands!

The missing ingredient was present in the faith and genius of Wozniac. Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak, and Ronald Wayne founded Apple on April 1, 1976. Wayne sold his share back to the others for $800!!He obviously lacked the needed faith and sold out for a pittance!

We should learn from them. Believe in one's gifts and skills and have the vision, fortitude and risk taking to make the dream happen!

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Old January 20th, 2014, 02:41 AM
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How long has it been since the kodak name on a camera meant anything anyway? Even the DCS cameras were just a blip and they also were other manufacturers base bodies with a kodak sensor inside.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 10:15 AM
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Please folks, let's not be dismissive or derisive of Asian ' Camera Churning ' companies.
Have a look around. Get real. There is a rover on the moon right now from a ' rover churning ' company.

Remember the cameras in the video that Bart recently provided a link to? On board the ISS, no less.
See the super video again, to refresh your memory.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 01:49 PM
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Please folks, let's not be dismissive or derisive of Asian ' Camera Churning ' companies.
Have a look around. Get real. There is a rover on the moon right now from a ' rover churning ' company.

Remember the cameras in the video that Bart recently provided a link to? On board the ISS, no less.
See the super video again, to refresh your memory.
Fahim,

Don't be over-sensitive, my friend. This was not some ethnic epithet, but rather a jab at the companies that churn out so many "almost the same" pieces of gear, missing or gaining a feature, to capture yet another small slice of market-share and so filling our dumpsters and landfills with millions of plastic and metal junk. We waste to much! There's no exchange program as for soda cans or glass bottles, where much of the material is recycled with less carbon footprint.

At least with a DSLR or the new professional level compacts, we keep the lenses for decades or more. But honestly, it is so mega-wasteful to just churn out new "stuff" and leave billions of products to make mountains of waste.

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Old January 21st, 2014, 02:41 AM
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This is what we have called ' progress '.

This is how modern economies function. Create a need, continuously, and then fulfil it.

And this process has allowed the common person to share the joys of photography. Photography for the masses. Do you want to deny them this pleasure; make it inaccessible to them by slowing down the market driven economic activity?

Cleaning up the waste is big business. Very big business.
Space, the final frontier..or a multinational waste disposal company's wet dream. I can just envision the logos..' We help disappear garbage '.

Film, kodak or other..of course, chemical processes were/are involved. The waste must be dumped somewhere.

Consumer goods production has just shifted elsewhere; economics at work. No ethnicity involved; just economics.
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