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Old July 27th, 2009, 04:38 AM
Ben Rubinstein Ben Rubinstein is offline
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From the terms and conditions on the new Mpix Pro service.

You certify that you own all intellectual property rights in Your Content. You hereby grant Millerís, our affiliates, and our partners a worldwide, irrevocable, royalty-free, nonexclusive, sub licensable license to use, reproduce, create derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display, transfer, transmit, distribute, and publish Your Content and subsequent versions of Your Content for the purposes of (i) displaying Your Content on our Site, (ii) distributing Your Content, either electronically or via other media, to users seeking to download or otherwise acquire it, and/or (iii) storing Your Content in a remote database accessible by end users, for a charge. This license shall apply to the distribution and the storage of Your Content in any form, medium, or technology now known or later developed.

Wow but that's a blatent rights grab and from a supposedly pro service. They can sell your wedding pics to your clients or run off a thousand copies of a limited edition print and there's not a thing you can do about it.

Spread the word people, Facebook backed down soon enough.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 06:09 AM
Cem_Usakligil Cem_Usakligil is offline
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Hi Ben,

Thanks for the warning. I know that there are many sites out there which will own your soul if you post anything there. That's why I have chosen to run my own web server a long time ago. I hate the small letters but I still try to read the TOS if I have to post anything at a site I haven't used before.

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Old July 27th, 2009, 12:02 PM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is offline
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i've seen this on other sharing sites. Amazingly they seem have you assign them the rights to use your pictures in any form and to sell them! If that's the case, then it's so outrageous!

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Old July 27th, 2009, 01:46 PM
Andrew Rodney Andrew Rodney is offline
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Its all fixed now. Thanks to the conversation on the NAPP forums and some phone calls from Larry and Dave of NAPP, at least the language on MPIX (but apparently not Millers?) is fixed. Keep in mind, this all came to a head just Friday on Scott Kelby's blog. Lots of posts over the weekend on the NAPP forums and by mid morning today, all fixed. So yes, an example of a large organization using clout to effect a positive result for its members and non members too.
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