Don Ferguson Jr.
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Kanye West tried to make money on the Confederate flag selling it in a fashion line of T shirts and jackets.
Don
Don
The Confederate flag will come down eventually but not as quick as some think. It will be interesting to see how the vote goes in the General Assembly as the removal requires 2/3 vote of both House and Senate.South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley was clear and to the point in a news conference Monday afternoon. She said, "It is time to move the (Confederate) flag from the capitol grounds.''
The Confederate flag will come down eventually but not as quick as some think. It will be interesting to see how the vote goes in the General Assembly as the removal requires 2/3 vote of both House and Senate.
Don
http://www.wyff4.com/news/sc-leaders-call-for-removal-of-confederate-flag/33709020
Bart
Exactly my point! Flags do not cause racism. Humans do!
Charlotte-
Asher
Yes of course slavery is very wrong! I agree! However as I have stated before a piece of cloth / flag/flags is or can be about ego plain and simple- If it is about race/slavery etc then it belongs to the mind not" a flag!
C.
If the Bonnie Blue flag had been flying above the Confederate War Memorial would there be such a push to remove it ? White supremacist have not hijacked it and the flag was used prior to the Civil War as well. I wonder if there would have been such an uproar to take it down ?Asher
Yes of course slavery is very wrong! I agree! However as I have stated before a piece of cloth / flag/flags is or can be about ego plain and simple- If it is about race/slavery etc then it belongs to the mind not" a flag! We have created a monster out of ignorance- Now it is important for me to let you understand I detest" any form of violence yet this misguided Dylan Roof uses racism and a flag albeit many flags just to start what he has started- A landslide of more hate. I do commend you for this thread. In many ways these conversations bring understanding. I think personally- "The world was made to destroy itself"
Now wait! Seriously think about that.
C.
I wonder if the Bonnie Blue flag had been flying above the Confederate War Memorial would there be such a push to remove it ?
Don
Well as I said above white supremacist have not hijacked it and the flag was used prior to the Civil War as well. I wonder if there would have been such an uproar to take it down ? I was thinking about it in that context. So you have never seen it ?
Don
http://www.washingtonartillery.com/Def.htm
I've seen it before. But that was in my study of "Gone with the Wind", years ago with a references to the "Bonnie Blue"
White supremecists are not the real issue. The victims' families in South Carolina, having no time or place for hatred, have forgiven them, and so these nutcases, for now, can be removed from the top of the news. Trust me, I am not ignoring them, but they are not the issue.
Rather its the pervasive gauntlet of symbology and attitude that blacks have to face growing up in the entire USA.
We gave reparation to the families of interned, (ethnically Japanese), citizens of the USA during the war. We apologized to them.
We must do the same to the blacks!
Asher
I've read that less than 10% of African slaves ended up in the US. The vast majority went to the Caribbean or further south into Brazil, which holds the esteemed position of having the most black slaves imported during the slave trade.
Reparations are "unworkable " Obama said.
Don
Asher
I don't look at the flag as a symbol of racism. It's just another Southern flag to me. As are people of any race or color just another human being to me!
from " the examiner .."Attacking the Confederate battle flag is a way to avoid the real issue that Roof’s massacre has brought into focus, that being the treatment of the mentally ill. In a strange way, by going after the banner that flew over Gettysburg and Shiloh, the politicians are fulfilling Dylann Roof’s desire to restart the Civil War, albeit without more gunfire. I
Too think the same…
C.