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Old November 6th, 2009, 03:56 PM
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Ok, can anyone quickly summarize what is different?
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Old November 6th, 2009, 04:00 PM
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It doesn't matter, but I didn't start this thread.

May be an artifact of the changeover.

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Old November 6th, 2009, 04:36 PM
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Ok, can anyone quickly summarize what is different?
From the user perspective, nothing except hopefully better performance and less lag. The work was done to address excessive wait times when the site was busy as observed by European users.

Technically, the site was moved to a new host with more resources.

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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:17 PM
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Ah, ok. No image hosting yet, then, I take it?
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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:43 PM
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Ah, ok. No image hosting yet, then, I take it?
Not yet ...

There is a cost issue involved, and some technical/practical ones. Things will evolve over time.

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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:45 PM
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Ah, ok. No image hosting yet, then, I take it?
Rachel,

We are working on that. Sean has an order of doing things and then testing them. He wants a framework thaqt's robust and can withstand the vBulletin upgrades and so forth. Patience.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 09:09 PM
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Site loads quickly for me, but it always did, so I can't say I notice any difference.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 09:38 PM
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I'll be happy to kick in..oh at least a buck!
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Old November 7th, 2009, 12:58 PM
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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:43 PM
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here in Riyadh, opf is loading faster than before. in Dubai day before yesterday it was the same as before.

Thank you Sean for your efforts.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 03:23 PM
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here in Riyadh, opf is loading faster than before. in Dubai day before yesterday it was the same as before.

Thank you Sean for your efforts.
Fahim,

Is it running slow in Dubai, then? What we need to know is whether loading time effects user experience such that they won't wait around for a connection. If waiting is annoying then we need to address that.

Thanks for the feedback. We'd like to see some pattern if this is an issue.

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Old November 8th, 2009, 03:37 PM
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In Dubai on friday, I found that OPF was loading slower than how it loads right now in Riyadh.
I did not find the wait times to be tiresome. However, message upload definitely was. It seems fine
and better in Riyadh right now at 0136 hrs on monday 9/nov/2009.

thank you all for making OPF a better experience.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 11:00 AM
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here in Riyadh, opf is loading faster than before. in Dubai day before yesterday it was the same as before.

Thank you Sean for your efforts.
Thank you Fahim.

As to performance, when going world wide we always have the network itself as a suspect too. A short look finds a windows tool for running a traceroute called VisualRoute Lite that you can download and install.

Using this tool, you can check into the quality of the network connection (OS X users can use terminal to run traceroute www.openphotographyforums.com). If the network connection is smooth, then the problem is likely on the server end. But if there are one or more slow nodes on the route between your machine and the server, then that is a potential cause of performance degradation.

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Old November 9th, 2009, 11:34 AM
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Hi, Sean,

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Thank you Fahim.

As to performance, when going world wide we always have the network itself as a suspect too. A short look finds a windows tool for running a traceroute called VisualRoute Lite that you can download and install.
Many Windows installations include tracert, which runs a traceroute. It can be called via Start|Run, giving the URL as an argument.

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Old November 9th, 2009, 12:31 PM
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Many Windows installations include tracert, which runs a traceroute. It can be called via Start|Run, giving the URL as an argument.
Thanks Doug. Since Vista does not have XP's Unix compatibility toolkit, I have moved to using VMWare and a Linux install for network stuff as I find it more user friendly.

Due to the disappearing nature of Start->Run created windows, I would suggest using:

Start->Run->cmd

to create a command prompt and typing:

tracert www.openphotographyforums.com

and hitting enter so one can view the results at their leisure (i.e., one can get coffee while it runs).

all the best,

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Old November 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Hi, Sean,

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Due to the disappearing nature of Start->Run created windows, I would suggest using:

Start->Run->cmd

to create a command prompt and typing:

tracert www.openphotographyforums.com

and hitting enter so one can view the results at their leisure (i.e., one can get coffee while it runs).
And we should remind people how to dismiss that command prompt window after you have noted the results: Key Exit <enter>

Best regards,

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Old November 9th, 2009, 04:33 PM
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Using this tool, you can check into the quality of the network connection (OS X users can use terminal to run traceroute www.openphotographyforums.com).
Or network utility, here form my hotel in La Ciotat :

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Old November 20th, 2009, 12:09 PM
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Has anyone noted a longer term change in performance?

thanks,

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Old November 20th, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Has anyone noted a longer term change in performance?
Hi Sean,

I'm not exactly sure what you are expecting, but things now seem as quick as they were shortly after the move:

Code:
Tracing route to www.openphotographyforums.com [174.143.45.129]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx [xxx.xxx.xxx.x]
  2    19 ms    14 ms    10 ms  xxx.xxx.xxx.xs4all.net [xxx.xxx.x.xxx]
  3     9 ms    33 ms     9 ms  x.xxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xs4all.net [xxx.xxx.x.xxx]
  4    10 ms    10 ms     9 ms  x.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xs4all.net [xxx.xxx.x.x]
  5    10 ms    11 ms    10 ms  k701.pni-xs4all.ams1.nl.above.net [62.93.194.145]
  6    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  ge-3-0-0.mpr1.ams1.nl.above.net [64.125.26.82]
  7    10 ms     9 ms    10 ms  so-2-1-0.mpr2.ams5.nl.above.net [64.125.31.254]
  8    18 ms    19 ms    17 ms  xe-3-2-0.mpr1.lhr2.uk.above.net [64.125.31.246]
  9    89 ms    93 ms    89 ms  so-0-1-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.57]
 10   116 ms   117 ms   117 ms  so-1-0-0.mpr3.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.29.37]
 11   117 ms   118 ms   117 ms  xe-0-1-0.er1.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.28.5]
 12   121 ms   121 ms   121 ms  xe-7-0-0.er1.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.30.58]
 13   130 ms   131 ms   135 ms  main1.above.net [209.133.126.42]
 14   130 ms   131 ms   130 ms  vlan907.core7.dfw1.rackspace.net [98.129.84.181]
 15   130 ms   131 ms   131 ms  aggr931a-1-core7.dfw1.rackspace.net [98.129.84.155]
 16   130 ms   130 ms   132 ms  174.143.45.129

Trace complete.
I anonimized the first few URLs.

Things move fast from my home, via Amsterdam to the UK, then hopping through the USA slows down some. Total time approx. 1 second to the homepage, the same as immediately after the change of server.

Cheers,
Bart
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Old November 20th, 2009, 04:33 PM
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Hi Sean,

I'm not exactly sure what you are expecting, but things now seem as quick as they were shortly after the move:
...

Things move fast from my home, via Amsterdam to the UK, then hopping through the USA slows down some. Total time approx. 1 second to the homepage, the same as immediately after the change of server.
Thanks Bart. <smile>

My main concern was perceived performance over time in remote parts of the world.

Code:
  1     4 ms     3 ms     5 ms  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  2     5 ms     4 ms     4 ms  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  3    16 ms    48 ms    18 ms  wtcdsl-66-165-20-2.whidbey.net [66.165.20.2]
  4    10 ms    12 ms    10 ms  bvras3-68-85.whidbey.net [209.166.68.85]
  5    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  216-145-7-117.sea.fibercloud.net [216.145.7.117]
  6    12 ms    11 ms    32 ms  19b1-19b2.sea.fibercloud.net [216.145.30.169]
  7    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  ge-6-17.car4.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.71.156.85]
  8    23 ms    18 ms    17 ms  ae-32-52.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.68.105.62]
  9    42 ms    52 ms    39 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.54]
 10    48 ms    40 ms    49 ms  ae-1-100.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.37]
 11    57 ms    54 ms    53 ms  ae-2.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.106]
 12    54 ms    80 ms    55 ms  ae-4-90.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net [4.69.145.204]
 13    55 ms   219 ms    56 ms  RACKSPACE-M.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net [4.59.36.50]
 14    54 ms    54 ms    54 ms  vlan907.core7.dfw1.rackspace.net [98.129.84.181]
 15    56 ms    56 ms    54 ms  aggr931a-1-core7.dfw1.rackspace.net [98.129.84.155]
 16    55 ms    56 ms    54 ms  174.143.45.129
all the best,

Sean
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