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Old March 21st, 2009, 11:30 AM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is offline
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Default OPF: Optimization as an International forum: Suggestion

We started OPF as an international effort. Many of the strongest supporters are European and other locations outside of the USA. Nicolas Claris from Bordeaux gave us the branding, the front end of OPF and getting us looking good. Michael Tapes did yeoman's work on taming vBulletin to our needs. We have contributors from around the world, with some of the most devoted contributers from Europe.

Still, I heard recently that we might have perhaps some suggestion that this is really American. How do you feel about this? If we have given this impression, then what counts is the answer to this question, "What you feel we can do to better serve our members?"

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 01:35 PM
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I don't think of OPF as American, but then I'm a European. Many of the people I have been priviliged to meet here are also European or Saudi Arabian or Asian as well as the few pesky Americans who drop in from time to time.

I would hate to find OPF becoming an American site, effectively centred on an American community or worldview, but as long as we value everyone's contribution we should be fine. I wouldn't want it to be necessary to form a 'euro' forum or 'non-continental-US' forum

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 01:47 PM
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I think it may have an "American flavor," but that might be hard to avoid. I saw McDonald's when I was in Paris, after all. Perhaps we should ask the non-Americans how to address this. It's difficult for a fish to recognize water, I imagine.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:14 PM
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No problem at all, even if there was/is a flavour. I don't care about nationalities when looking at images.

One think I realised is, that we loook a bit different at images - this can be interesting.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:21 PM
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One of the 1st thing Asher did when we did put OPF online, was to visit many European countries (and photogs), his aim was to connect (or was it re-connect?) to European Photography, so in no way I would say that OPF aim could be to be American -only-.
On another hand, one may recognize some facts as:
- Without having counted, I'm pretty sure that Americans are the majority here
- I suspect that most but not all Americans sometimes forget that some part of the planet is not American ; -)
- Language used is English (that, as a side effect could reinforce the above non scientific statement)

One of the very best thing technology should provide us (the people of the world) would be to get possible the instant translation of such forum, so everyone could read and post in his own language, but this a dream only, just have a translation made by any online translators and you may LoL for the entire night!
As an example, "OPF" is translated from English to French in reverso.net as "personnal folder"!

So, in the meantime, let's all preserve our internationnal platform, sharing with respect our differences, they are our richness.

I'm so glad to write now, in the same time for California, Texas, NYC, Chicago, Canada, South America, Australia, Kiwis, South-East, South-Africa (I would love more people from Africa here!), Israel, Holland, Germany etc*

As a suggestion, I would like to invite all of us to write down in our signature, our place and country!
You'll see that there are a lot of non American here also but also a lot of American as well

<{:-D)

* I know I forgot many, please don't send me PMs, instead write it in a post hereunder thanks!
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:21 PM
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I can think of a few suggestions that might make OPF less "America-centric"
1. Implement either a "local-time aware" or Universal Time time/date reference for postings
2. Make sure the servers and forum software support full international character sets (this was a big issue on Photo.net)
3. Be more vigilant in requiring/requesting Location information in profiles and posts. It is very useful to know where/when the OP is.

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 02:34 PM
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or .02 Euros?

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Hi, Nicolas,

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As a suggestion, I would like to invite all of us to write down in our signature, our place and country!
Or, even better in my opinion, as many do, put it in our profile so it shows up at the top of the message.

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Signature edited.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:14 PM
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Hi, Nicolas,


Or, even better in my opinion, as many do, put it in our profile so it shows up at the top of the message.

Best regards,

Doug
Hi Doug

how's that?
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:15 PM
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I added my location to my sig cuz it doesn't show at top for some reason.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:22 PM
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I added my location to my sig cuz it doesn't show at top for some reason.
Ok I can see it now (needed to refresh screen)!

BTW
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sig cuz
ar u spkin txt msg? ; -)
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:25 PM
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our place and country!

The shortcut for Basel is BS ^^
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:25 PM
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I can think of a few suggestions that might make OPF less "America-centric"
1. Implement either a "local-time aware" or Universal Time time/date reference for postings
2. Make sure the servers and forum software support full international character sets (this was a big issue on Photo.net)
3. Be more vigilant in requiring/requesting Location information in profiles and posts. It is very useful to know where/when the OP is.

My $0.02 worth.
Charles,

These are all good points.

1. Local time awareness is built in. In your registration you set your time zone. All your posts will reflect that. I believe you can reset it any time.

2. International characters: I myself would like more. Of 4, here I know just the first 2!
is alt e then e again
is alt c
?
?

Who has a good list?
3. Location info should be filled in!

Maybe we need a hospitality volunteer to remind folk.

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 03:36 PM
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You know, a hospitality team isn't a bad idea! Sometimes people go unwelcomed cuz (lazy speak) we get too busy.

r u tlking 2 me? Ha!
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 04:15 PM
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I don't care where you are from - if you can't spell with vowels you should be banned

txt spk.... I ask you

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 04:47 PM
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B&, you say?
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 06:51 PM
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For those operating on Windows platforms with the standard US keyboard, their browser should accept these, and the board will take them (the numeric sequence must be entered on the numeric cluster):

Alt+0224 Alt+0192
Alt+0225 Alt+0193
Alt+0226 Alt+0194
Alt+0227 Alt+0195
Alt+0232 Alt+0199
Alt+0233 Alt+0201
Alt+0234 Alt+0202
Alt+0243 Alt+0211
Alt+0231 Alt+0199
Alt+0241 Alt+0209
Alt+0248 Alt+0216
Alt+0229 Alt+0197
Alt+0246 Alt+0214
Alt+0228 Alt+0196 [repeated here]
Alt+0252 Alt+0220
Alt+0154 Alt+0138
Alt+0156 Alt+0140
Alt+0254 Alt+0222

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 06:53 PM
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I don't care where you are from - if you can't spell with vowels you should be banned
It's that old irritable vowel syndrome.

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 06:59 PM
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Hi, Mike,

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I don't care where you are from - if you can't spell with vowels you should be banned
So let no Czech here threaten any of us us with "Strč prst skrz krk" ("stick a finger through your neck").

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug_Kerr View Post
For those operating on Windows platforms with the standard US keyboard, their browser should accept these, and the board will take them (the numeric sequence must be entered on the numeric cluster):

Alt+0224 Alt+0192
Alt+0225 Alt+0193
Alt+0226 Alt+0194
Alt+0227 Alt+0195
Alt+0232 Alt+0199
Alt+0233 Alt+0201
Alt+0234 Alt+0202
Alt+0243 Alt+0211
Alt+0231 Alt+0199
Alt+0241 Alt+0209
Alt+0248 Alt+0216
Alt+0229 Alt+0197
Alt+0246 Alt+0214
Alt+0228 Alt+0196 [repeated here]
Alt+0252 Alt+0220
Alt+0154 Alt+0138
Alt+0156 Alt+0140
Alt+0254 Alt+0222

Best regards,

Doug
I found this PDF which has full instructions for Windows, Linux and Mac.

Asher
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 07:43 PM
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Hi, Asher,

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I found this PDF which has full instructions for Windows, Linux and Mac.
Yes, another approach.

Best regards,

Doug
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 11:31 PM
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3. Location info should be filled in!
YEs, and it appears in the User Profile, not in the signature, not very handy!
And no all members do fill it, I know one guy from down under (the one who likes links;-) who didn't.

Should it be mandatory field? I don't think so.

And yes I agree we should tell people when they introduce themselves
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 06:57 AM
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I totally think of OPF as international. (Totally is a word of Valley Girl origin- of which I can truly tell you that I was born in Sherman Oaks - yes near the famed Galleria)

I would guess that in the grand scheme of positing, we Americans are probabbly more chatty on the internet but I do feel the ambiance of international community here. OPF is a very special place. This is my internet photo home.
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