kombizz kashani
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Easy stealing during DIGITAL ERA
During the film era, there was not that many cases about stealing images compare to our new era of digital photography.
These days the crooked people under the good name of Pro-Photographer could steal any images thru internet very easily. Then they could change them little bit and present them as their own hard work to few fools.
I DO have a proof.
I managed to caught a thief during my daily critic/comment writing among images. [(K=37501) on 3/3/2006]
Then I managed the spot this.
http://www.usefilm.com/Photo_Forum/11/1012217/
Now examine those images for yourself and judge if I am right in my reason.
Good luck.
Editor's Comment:
It is extraordinary in OPF for any thread to be closed. Here it was done as an emrgency measure pending evaluation. Censorship is an antithesis to an open forum.
Still, we have to balance free uncensored speech with the right of a person not to be maligned when there is no definite proof of wrongdoing. This is a forum and open to any serious photographer. We aim to be helpful and not to denigrate or damage another person. I have to spend more time on this subject because it touches on two major opposing ethics. The right to express an opinion and discuss openely and the right to one's good name.
We do not censor, delete or close discussion see the TOS in the FAQ at the front of OPF . However, the broad subject referenced is valid but the specific I have no knowledge of.
I do not know the facts. I have not checked the references. So I cannot do anything but protect the reputation of a person who is unkown to OPF. Therefore, this entire thread must be considered speculatve comment under free speech and not any claim or proof of wrongdoing by anyone. We can ask, be concerned, wonder, question, be surprised and more. However the term "thief" must be discounted and cannot be intepreted as fact unless one is a direct witness and it is one's owns work that one sees is not licensed. While each contributor is responsible for their own writing, OPF does not support any opinions on other people's morality or ehtics when they are not a public figure where such criticism is in the USA protected free speech.
So I am going to be reopening this thread and ask for members of OPF to have care and insight.
The subject of stealing can be discussed but one cannot without complete proof denigrate anyone. This is what separates OPF from all other fora. We are a community of considerate photographers interested in the best in photography. Of course we want rights to be protected and that is always fair to discuss with all the aggression one can muster. However, in that context, we cannot wrap a particular person. So I may separate this thread to two threads. One a puzzle to be solved. Something of interest. This particular case and then separately the aweful problem of plagarism.
So while I commend the author for opening a discussion of importance, I have to draw a line around the character of someone we really do not know to judge and therefore must, at this time be considered in a separate context. So reread this entire thread in this new perspective. I am not King Solomon. I am not a "Guru, with perfect judgemnt of right and wrong not the expert in all matters of anything. So I'm the "Unguru", but one with responsibility! So I have to intervene in this case and support the caution of Nicolas Claris who brought this matter to my attention.
Thanks for your understanding.
So I'll reopen this thread shortly as two separate non-related threads[.
Asher
During the film era, there was not that many cases about stealing images compare to our new era of digital photography.
These days the crooked people under the good name of Pro-Photographer could steal any images thru internet very easily. Then they could change them little bit and present them as their own hard work to few fools.
I DO have a proof.
I managed to caught a thief during my daily critic/comment writing among images. [(K=37501) on 3/3/2006]
Then I managed the spot this.
http://www.usefilm.com/Photo_Forum/11/1012217/
Now examine those images for yourself and judge if I am right in my reason.
Good luck.
Editor's Comment:
It is extraordinary in OPF for any thread to be closed. Here it was done as an emrgency measure pending evaluation. Censorship is an antithesis to an open forum.
Still, we have to balance free uncensored speech with the right of a person not to be maligned when there is no definite proof of wrongdoing. This is a forum and open to any serious photographer. We aim to be helpful and not to denigrate or damage another person. I have to spend more time on this subject because it touches on two major opposing ethics. The right to express an opinion and discuss openely and the right to one's good name.
We do not censor, delete or close discussion see the TOS in the FAQ at the front of OPF . However, the broad subject referenced is valid but the specific I have no knowledge of.
I do not know the facts. I have not checked the references. So I cannot do anything but protect the reputation of a person who is unkown to OPF. Therefore, this entire thread must be considered speculatve comment under free speech and not any claim or proof of wrongdoing by anyone. We can ask, be concerned, wonder, question, be surprised and more. However the term "thief" must be discounted and cannot be intepreted as fact unless one is a direct witness and it is one's owns work that one sees is not licensed. While each contributor is responsible for their own writing, OPF does not support any opinions on other people's morality or ehtics when they are not a public figure where such criticism is in the USA protected free speech.
So I am going to be reopening this thread and ask for members of OPF to have care and insight.
The subject of stealing can be discussed but one cannot without complete proof denigrate anyone. This is what separates OPF from all other fora. We are a community of considerate photographers interested in the best in photography. Of course we want rights to be protected and that is always fair to discuss with all the aggression one can muster. However, in that context, we cannot wrap a particular person. So I may separate this thread to two threads. One a puzzle to be solved. Something of interest. This particular case and then separately the aweful problem of plagarism.
So while I commend the author for opening a discussion of importance, I have to draw a line around the character of someone we really do not know to judge and therefore must, at this time be considered in a separate context. So reread this entire thread in this new perspective. I am not King Solomon. I am not a "Guru, with perfect judgemnt of right and wrong not the expert in all matters of anything. So I'm the "Unguru", but one with responsibility! So I have to intervene in this case and support the caution of Nicolas Claris who brought this matter to my attention.
Thanks for your understanding.
So I'll reopen this thread shortly as two separate non-related threads[.
Asher
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