Charlotte Thompson
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Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Charlotte,
I've been waiting on this set to see the reaction. Here we have a sort of unfit between personal family pictures, art and what public impressions might be. The pictures are delightful and I love the joy. I also own Jock Sturges work and I'm no prude. However I have reserve about perfectly proper private family pictures where little girls seem presented in a way that might be fodder for pedaphiles trawling for pictures to trade. Of course it's unintentional!
The issue to me is that naked ness of a pre-pubescent young minor is valued highly in that horrible circle. This is especially true when the girl is caught in a manner reminiscent of glamorous or sensual adult women. For sure there's nothing illegal here and only happiness and beauty. Still, we're a nation deeply scarred by the murder of little Jobenét Ramsey in 1996. We're not healed yet.
So, perhaps, this triangulation of art, seeming sensuality and family should be kept private. It's the appearance of such sensuality that can be harvested by perverts and so inappropriate and should be private. It even can put the child in danger, god forbid! This is not a rebuke or any attempt to censor. Rather it expresses the reason, perhaps, just perhaps, why there have been zero responses to 3 fun family pictures. So you can respond, "Jock Sturges and other famous photographers have puplished photos of children naked". But remember, he had a very, very expensive defense paid for by his publishers when the FBI arrested him for child porn.Worse, a Grandmother several years ago was arrested picking up pictures from Walgreens who had alerted the police to pictures of here grandchildren in the bath! Not until she lost all her savings, and I believe her home too and pleaded "no contest" and branded a sexual predator for life, was the persecution stopped. This shows how wounded the nation is.
I just want to share this view with you. It's, likely, I believe, to represent the reactions of others too who have not posted, perhaps because of reticence to be confrontational. All this with the greatest respect and affection and respect for your artistry,
Asher
I've been waiting on this set to see the reaction. Here we have a sort of unfit between personal family pictures, art and what public impressions might be. The pictures are delightful and I love the joy. I also own Jock Sturges work and I'm no prude. However I have reserve about perfectly proper private family pictures where little girls seem presented in a way that might be fodder for pedaphiles trawling for pictures to trade. Of course it's unintentional!
The issue to me is that naked ness of a pre-pubescent young minor is valued highly in that horrible circle. This is especially true when the girl is caught in a manner reminiscent of glamorous or sensual adult women. For sure there's nothing illegal here and only happiness and beauty. Still, we're a nation deeply scarred by the murder of little Jobenét Ramsey in 1996. We're not healed yet.
So, perhaps, this triangulation of art, seeming sensuality and family should be kept private. It's the appearance of such sensuality that can be harvested by perverts and so inappropriate and should be private. It even can put the child in danger, god forbid! This is not a rebuke or any attempt to censor. Rather it expresses the reason, perhaps, just perhaps, why there have been zero responses to 3 fun family pictures. So you can respond, "Jock Sturges and other famous photographers have puplished photos of children naked". But remember, he had a very, very expensive defense paid for by his publishers when the FBI arrested him for child porn.Worse, a Grandmother several years ago was arrested picking up pictures from Walgreens who had alerted the police to pictures of here grandchildren in the bath! Not until she lost all her savings, and I believe her home too and pleaded "no contest" and branded a sexual predator for life, was the persecution stopped. This shows how wounded the nation is.
I just want to share this view with you. It's, likely, I believe, to represent the reactions of others too who have not posted, perhaps because of reticence to be confrontational. All this with the greatest respect and affection and respect for your artistry,
Asher
Charlotte Thompson
Well-known member
Asher
we always have a different idea about this sort of thing-
so be it!
check this out and I know you are going to take this photographer out
but by god it is art- pure and true-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...959741185.6776.100000686451420&type=1&theater
we always have a different idea about this sort of thing-
so be it!
check this out and I know you are going to take this photographer out
but by god it is art- pure and true-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...959741185.6776.100000686451420&type=1&theater
Charlotte Thompson
Well-known member
The other link doesn't seem to work
this should -- photographer Lukas Roels
I happen to know him
this is amazingly beautiful art photography
http://lukasroels.wordpress.com/
and if that doesnt then please google Lukas Roels
this should -- photographer Lukas Roels
I happen to know him
this is amazingly beautiful art photography
http://lukasroels.wordpress.com/
and if that doesnt then please google Lukas Roels
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Charlotte,
I don't find anything uncomfortable with what I see so far, but I don't have the book. Those pictures are sexually not switched on in any way. The bodies of the children are just documentary. There don't appear posed or posing in any adult kind of sensual manner. That's the difference. Remember, I'm not your censor here. If I believed your work crossed the line without any question, the I'd have written to you to request exchange for others showing the same Christmas family happiness.
I responded because it was obvious that the pictures were not being commented on and that' unusual for your photographs. It was time then, for me to provide my feedback as to why that was the case. Freedom of expression is important here!
Taste? That's another matter!
Asher