Open Photography Forums  
HOME FORUMS NEWS FAQ SEARCH

Go Back   Open Photography Forums > Digital Darkroom > Image Processing and Workflow

Image Processing and Workflow RAW, DNG , TIFF and JPG. From Capture to Ready for Publish/Display. All software and techniques used within an image workflow, (except extensive retouching and repair or DAM).

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 27th, 2018, 01:39 PM
Doug Kerr Doug Kerr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 8,558
Default Athentec "Perfectly Clear"

Mostly by accident I became aware of the Athentec image enhancement program, "Perfectly Clear". It looks interesting.

Has anyone here had any experience with it?

Here is a link to the site, a special page linked to by Ken Rockwell that offers the product at a discount.

http://www.athentech.com/affiliates/rockwell

Thanks.

Best regards,

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old October 27th, 2018, 09:16 PM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is offline
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 34,769
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Kerr View Post
Mostly by accident I became aware of the Athentec image enhancement program, "Perfectly Clear". It looks interesting.

Has anyone here had any experience with it?

Here is a link to the site, a special page linked to by Ken Rockwell that offers the product at a discount.

http://www.athentech.com/affiliates/rockwell

Likely as not, Doug, I make more typing errors than most. Excuses are just excuses, we just are so imperfect! Another unjustified inherently stupid excuse!

I thought we were going to discuss matter that were authentic in photography. So perhaps it meant not erasing stray trash or the red spit that just appeared on her forehead!

No, you were referring the something else! At least I thought, “Ahah! I just caught my engineering buddy in a rare goof-up!”

But it was beyond that it was not misspelling authentic, but the corporation, “Authentech”, LOL

This is a rare event like the total eclipse of the sun, (or Donald Trump taking responsibility for dividing us as a distraction while he gives his rich friends tax cuts and freedom from regulations that protect the planet).

Anyway, the company does seem to make a software worth trying.

If you register with them, they will send you a voucher for 15% off.

The code is CLEARLY15


That gets you 15% off but the trial is actually free anyway, either as a plug-in for Photoshop or as freestanding!

Asher
__________________
Follow us on Twitter at @opfweb

Our purpose is getting to an impressive photograph. So we encourage browsing and then feedback. Consider a link to your galleries annotated, C&C welcomed. Images posted within OPF are assumed to be for Comment & Critique, unless otherwise designated.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old October 28th, 2018, 08:00 AM
Doug Kerr Doug Kerr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 8,558
Default

Hi, Asher,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asher Kelman View Post
Likely as not, Doug, I make more typing errors than most. Excuses are just excuses, we just are so imperfect! Another unjustified inherently stupid excuse!

I thought we were going to discuss matter that were authentic in photography. So perhaps it meant not erasing stray trash or the red spit that just appeared on her forehead!

No, you were referring the something else! At least I thought, “Ahah! I just caught my engineering buddy in a rare goof-up!”

But it was beyond that it was not misspelling authentic, but the corporation, “Authentech”, LOL
The name of the company is (this copied via the Windows clipboard from their Web site): Athentech Imaging Inc. I hoped I had spelled it (in its short form) correctly in my post.

Their site says:
Our inspiration is Athena, the Greek goddess of wisdom and justice.
Quote:
This is a rare event like the total eclipse of the sun, (or Donald Trump taking responsibility for dividing us as a distraction while he gives his rich friends tax cuts and freedom from regulations that protect the planet).

Anyway, the company does seem to make a software worth trying.

If you register with them, they will send you a voucher for 15% off.

The code is CLEARLY15


That gets you 15% off but the trial is actually free anyway, either as a plug-in for Photoshop or as freestanding!
They seem to have a "lite" version which is just plain free, but only in the plug-in form.

Best regards,

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old October 28th, 2018, 09:54 AM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is offline
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 34,769
Default

But I missed saying Thanks! It seems like a great find!

Asher
__________________
Follow us on Twitter at @opfweb

Our purpose is getting to an impressive photograph. So we encourage browsing and then feedback. Consider a link to your galleries annotated, C&C welcomed. Images posted within OPF are assumed to be for Comment & Critique, unless otherwise designated.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old October 28th, 2018, 10:17 AM
Doug Kerr Doug Kerr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 8,558
Default

Hi, Asher,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asher Kelman View Post
But I missed saying Thanks! It seems like a great find
Avec plaisir.

I will probably get the demo and see how it performs.

Best regards,

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old October 28th, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jerome Marot Jerome Marot is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Munich, Germany.
Posts: 3,789
Default

I feel like paraphrasing Ansel Adams and saying: "There is nothing worse than a perfectly clear image of a fuzzy concept."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old October 28th, 2018, 02:47 PM
Robert Watcher Robert Watcher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: El Salvador / Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,174
Default

Well you made me curious Doug. I have quite a bit of client portrait work that I am processing, and so I downloaded the trial and have been playing with it for the last 30 minutes or so.

I have to say that there is a lot of functionality and fine tuning of every adjustment that can be done. The AI in recognizing faces and identifying different parts of the face to effect is really quite impressive.

Here are a few screenshots as I applied the basic Beautify preset to see if the algorithms would take things too far or not - and then on the second shot of the teenage girl, I went a step farther by applying the Beautify+ preset which actually narrows the jawline and then finally applied my own interpretation by adjusting the final Beautify+ effect and lessening some of the adjustments.

I could certainly see the value speedwise if I had a bunch of headshots where I could clean them up in 15 minutes as opposed to that much time or more per image. Now whether I am going to fork out $100+ USD - that is another story. I have a pretty decent workflow for doing this type of work in LR/PS so it’s not likely to happen for me at this point in time —— but you never know.


———-
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old October 28th, 2018, 02:48 PM
Robert Watcher Robert Watcher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: El Salvador / Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,174
Default















Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old October 28th, 2018, 02:49 PM
Robert Watcher Robert Watcher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: El Salvador / Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,174
Default












Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old October 28th, 2018, 05:14 PM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is offline
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 34,769
Default

Seems pretty good for something quick. I resent having to spend hours and I prefer not to send JPGs out of the camera without clearing GR the skin of obvious temporary blemishes, like the forehead in the last shot.

Robert,

Thanks for sharing your experiments. It’s helpful!

So as a one time purchase with a 15% discount this is not bad as one is buying back one’s time.

Currently I just bite the bullet and send I corrected JPGs as I do not have time to correct the 50 best pictures of a shoot when they are going to choose 10-16!

For folk who do not have hundreds of pictures to process, and just say 12 for a show, this might not make sense.

I have not used Portrait Pro for bulk work since I need to always dial back physical alterations to shape of the jaw, size of eyes and the like. I occasionally allow a tad of that but really I am ashamed of deforming soneone’s face. But for artwork, not related to that person, I might in the future also trespass and alter shapes.

It appears that this new program does something similar but faster! As long as one can save a limited set of presets without resculpting the face, this could be very useful.

The main need is to intelligently deal with skin texture and coloration problems and lighting optimization, reasonably bright eyes and teeth and not too unruly hair!

Asher
__________________
Follow us on Twitter at @opfweb

Our purpose is getting to an impressive photograph. So we encourage browsing and then feedback. Consider a link to your galleries annotated, C&C welcomed. Images posted within OPF are assumed to be for Comment & Critique, unless otherwise designated.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old October 28th, 2018, 05:32 PM
Doug Kerr Doug Kerr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 8,558
Default

Hi, Robert,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Watcher View Post
Well you made me curious Doug. I have quite a bit of client portrait work that I am processing, and so I downloaded the trial and have been playing with it for the last 30 minutes or so.

I have to say that there is a lot of functionality and fine tuning of every adjustment that can be done. The AI in recognizing faces and identifying different parts of the face to effect is really quite impressive.

Here are a few screenshots as I applied the basic Beautify preset to see if the algorithms would take things too far or not - and then on the second shot of the teenage girl, I went a step farther by applying the Beautify+ preset which actually narrows the jawline and then finally applied my own interpretation by adjusting the final Beautify+ effect and lessening some of the adjustments.

I could certainly see the value speedwise if I had a bunch of headshots where I could clean them up in 15 minutes as opposed to that much time or more per image. Now whether I am going to fork out $100+ USD - that is another story. I have a pretty decent workflow for doing this type of work in LR/PS so it’s not likely to happen for me at this point in time —— but you never know.
Thanks so much for going to the trouble of doing that. It gives a very good idea of what it can do on portraits. It looks very impressive.

Actually, my greatest interest for this software was not portraits but landscapes and the like. I have been doing most of my portrait "fixing" with PortraitPro, and in fact yesterday paid for the upgrade to version 18.1, but I haven't had a chance to do any work with it yet.

Best regards,

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old October 28th, 2018, 07:17 PM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is offline
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 34,769
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Kerr View Post
Hi, Robert,



Thanks so much for going to the trouble of doing that. It gives a very good idea of what it can do on portraits. It looks very impressive.

Actually, my greatest interest for this software was not portraits but landscapes and the like. I have been doing most of my portrait "fixing" with PortraitPro, and in fact yesterday paid for the upgrade to version 18.1, but I haven't had a chance to do any work with it yet.


Doug,

Why don’t you also try out Landscape Pro from Anthropics too?

I will experinentcwith it myself!

Asher
__________________
Follow us on Twitter at @opfweb

Our purpose is getting to an impressive photograph. So we encourage browsing and then feedback. Consider a link to your galleries annotated, C&C welcomed. Images posted within OPF are assumed to be for Comment & Critique, unless otherwise designated.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old October 28th, 2018, 07:35 PM
Doug Kerr Doug Kerr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 8,558
Default

Hi, Asher,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asher Kelman View Post
Doug,

Why don’t you also try out Landscape Pro from Anthropics too?
Yes, I may do that.

Best regards,

Doug
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old October 29th, 2018, 12:46 AM
Nicolas Claris Nicolas Claris is offline
Administrator/Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bordeaux
Posts: 5,769
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asher Kelman View Post

I have not used Portrait Pro for bulk work since I need to always dial back physical alterations to shape of the jaw, size of eyes and the like. I occasionally allow a tad of that but really I am ashamed of deforming soneone’s face. But for artwork, not related to that person, I might in the future also trespass and alter shapes.
Asher
Asher
I use portrait pro quite a lot.
I also do not want to shape differently, but like to enhance light/shadows and skins.
There is a setting in Portrait pro to disable shaping :)
I always work on a layer and use to get that layer 30 to 50% opacity.
Never had any complain!
__________________
WEBSITE - FACEBOOK - INSTAGRAM
Please do no repost my images elsewhere than OPF without my permission.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Documentary - The Making Of: "Crescent City" a "hyper-opera" with voice, multimedia and sculpture! Asher Kelman Music Photography 36 September 26th, 2015 01:20 AM
"Boring", "Pretty", "blank-faced beauty" and what else makes for Good Photography? Asher Kelman Art Theory: Idea workshop. 21 February 25th, 2013 11:32 AM
Towards "Terms of Endearment" in Photography! Neologisms: "Factive and "Fictive" Michael_Stones Photography as Art 14 December 1st, 2011 08:35 AM
"On A Clear Day......" Robert Mielke Landscape - Travel 5 May 18th, 2008 11:08 AM
"Beauty Shoot!" or "P-TTL Blinkies" or "A Better Bounce Card" Edward Bussa Pet's Corner: Professional as well as enjoyable photos of your pets. 15 March 13th, 2007 04:20 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:46 AM.


Posting images or text grants license to OPF, yet © of such remain with its creator. Still, all assembled discussion © 2006-2017 Asher Kelman (all rights reserved) Posts with new theme or unusual image might be moved/copied to a new thread!