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Old November 21st, 2009, 04:03 PM
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Default Some of my favourites from 1984

My Nikon Coolscan 500 ED has arrived and I just played with it for the first time this evening. Dusting off my old neg files brought back a few memories. Here are a few of the first scans from black and white negatives with no retouching. Full frame prints with no cropping. I haven't quite worked out how to use the scanner properly and show the borders of the film as I like, but I know I am going to have a LOT of fun with this new toy.

These are part of a set I took of my soon to be wife, Elisabet on the 10th September 1984 with my Pentax LX and 50mm 1.4 with Ilford HP5. These were taken at the South bank centre in London and not only had it just rained, we'd had a big row. Hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There's a quality about film that digital just cannot emulate in my opinion.


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Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 1


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Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 2



3. Nigel Allan:
Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 3



4. Nigel Allan:
Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 4

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Old November 21st, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Hi, Nigel,

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These are part of a set I took of my soon to be wife, Elisabet on the 10th September 1984 with my Pentax LX and 50mm 1.4 with Ilford HP5.
You are to be congratulated for your judgment (or good luck) in getting this exquisite model "under contract".

Yes, the shots are wonderful, very evocative of the period, almost like something out of a period movie about the Cold War.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 05:41 PM
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Hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There's a quality about film that digital just cannot emulate in my opinion.

Hi Nigel,
What's not to enjoy? These are exquisite captures!
I agree with Doug - I see a same "Cold War-esq" quality to them, almost as if they were stills from a '60's era movie.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 07:50 PM
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beautiful images of your future white. her poses and clothes go along with the modern industrial background..

much better than my masterpiece done a few months later that year of poo in the diaper.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:29 AM
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Hi Nigel, you must be having a lot of fun scanning all these gems, please keep sharing them!
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 10:17 AM
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My Nikon Coolscan 500 ED has arrived and I just played with it for the first time this evening. Dusting off my old neg files brought back a few memories. Here are a few of the first scans from black and white negatives with no retouching. Full frame prints with no cropping. I haven't quite worked out how to use the scanner properly and show the borders of the film as I like, but I know I am going to have a LOT of fun with this new toy.

These are part of a set I took of my soon to be wife, Elisabet on the 10th September 1984 with my Pentax LX and 50mm 1.4 with Ilford HP5. These were taken at the South bank centre in London and not only had it just rained, we'd had a big row. Hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There's a quality about film that digital just cannot emulate in my opinion.


Nigel Allan: [I]Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984[/I]

What grace and contrast, a perfect woman and the hard rectangular stone building.

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 10:49 AM
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That's evocative Nigel. great shots, with a sense of Human League or some such about them:)

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 12:56 PM
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Well, Mike, time to take your stuff out of moth balls...the shoulder pads are back in fashion! :)
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 01:01 PM
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Nigel...you are good!
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 02:04 PM
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Well, Mike, time to take your stuff out of moth balls...the shoulder pads are back in fashion! :)
Hi Nigel

despite hailing from near Sheffield, I was never a follower o' t'League. Recently, I narrowly missed (due to a pre booked holiday) a return to see Michael Schenker and Friends playing a warm up gig at a local, small nightclub, but I don't have or fit any of that gear these days either:)

I still think this is a great set.

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 02:07 PM
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Nigel...you are good!
Wow, Rachel, I don't know what to say except thank you.

Isn't it amazing how much impact three little words can have? Sometimes less is truly more
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 02:09 PM
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Hi Nigel

despite hailing from near Sheffield, I was never a follower o' t'League. Recently, I narrowly missed (due to a pre booked holiday) a return to see Michael Schenker and Friends playing a warm up gig at a local, small nightclub, but I don't have or fit any of that gear these days either:)

I still think this is a great set.

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 02:29 PM
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Isn't it amazing how much impact three little words can have? Sometimes less is truly more
These are wonderful! :)
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 02:38 PM
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Default Another from the South bank series

Thank you everyone for all the encouragement and kind words. It makes me want to go and take more pictures.

Here's another from that afternoon. I made almost every shot on the 36 exposure roll count, with only one or two that didn't work due to camera shake from fading light. I do think that shooting like this with film instills a certain discipline that you won't get from digital with large storage memory cards and 'throw away images'



5. Nigel Allan: Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 5

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Old November 22nd, 2009, 02:55 PM
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I just came across these and, again, must join the chorus of congratulations. These are excellent, Nigel. In this case, this set reminds me just a bit of some of Harry Callahan's extensive work using his wife, Eleanor, as his muse. Elisabet has a very statuesque figure, strong poise.

You should have gotten yourself a scanner a long time ago.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 05:55 PM
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I just came across these and, again, must join the chorus of congratulations. These are excellent, Nigel. In this case, this set reminds me just a bit of some of Harry Callahan's extensive work using his wife, Eleanor, as his muse. Elisabet has a very statuesque figure, strong poise.

You should have gotten yourself a scanner a long time ago.
Thank you Ken. I am getting my head around it (as a typical male RTFM applies to me. I play with it and only when I get stuck do I bother to read the *%&@+* manual) and now I realise I can scan finer so I will rescan some of these and see if I can improve the final product. Here is another I scanned from that set at a slightly finer resolution (I hope) so let's see if it the grain looks any smoother etc



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Old November 25th, 2009, 02:38 PM
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My immediate off-the-cuff:
- The image has a great deal going in its favor. Beautiful forms, wide tonality mostly in the right places, nice pose and posture on Elisabeth. She looks just a bit rigid and, in a perfect world, I might have brought her chin down half a degree. Since you're shooting from a heroic angle you don't really need the straight-neck exaggeration. The right hand heading for the pocket is interesting. At first it seemed a bit unsettling, rather like a casual snap. but the more I look the more I like the way it breaks-up the otherwise coldly static nature of the scene.

- In terms of framing, again in a perfect world, I would have preferred 2 or 3-steps back, rotated slightly to the right, and tilted slightly down. That is, I would like just a bit more of that wall's dark grungy texture and more of Elisabeth, perhaps to her feet.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 03:07 PM
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1984? Unimportant. These are timeless. She is exquisite.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 04:27 PM
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My immediate off-the-cuff:
- The image has a great deal going in its favor. Beautiful forms, wide tonality mostly in the right places, nice pose and posture on Elisabeth. She looks just a bit rigid and, in a perfect world, I might have brought her chin down half a degree. Since you're shooting from a heroic angle you don't really need the straight-neck exaggeration. The right hand heading for the pocket is interesting. At first it seemed a bit unsettling, rather like a casual snap. but the more I look the more I like the way it breaks-up the otherwise coldly static nature of the scene.

- In terms of framing, again in a perfect world, I would have preferred 2 or 3-steps back, rotated slightly to the right, and tilted slightly down. That is, I would like just a bit more of that wall's dark grungy texture and more of Elisabeth, perhaps to her feet.
Ken, thank you.

This was not one of my original favourites from this set and to be honest nearly every one on the 36 roll is different so we didn't spend time 'perfecting' a set up or pose. I just shot what I saw and felt as we were having fun. No doubt if this was 'the' shot I was looking for we might have shot this same one 20-30 times or more but it wasn't like that.

I did ask you specifically to give your feedback on this particular photo since I value your insight so highly and wondered what you might see in it both good and bad, especially since it is one of the roll which I never printed and never selected as a favourite yet somehow, looking at it with fresh eyes after 25 years find it strangely interesting and almost 'iconic' in some way. I also like the geometry of the frame in the way the light and dark areas divide up the rectangular space. Remember this isn't cropped and is as shot and seen in the VF

Once again thank you Ken and to everyone else who has commented so constructively and been so complimentary.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 09:42 PM
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Thank you Ken. I am getting my head around it (as a typical male RTFM applies to me. I play with it and only when I get stuck do I bother to read the *%&@+* manual) and now I realise I can scan finer so I will rescan some of these and see if I can improve the final product. Here is another I scanned from that set at a slightly finer resolution (I hope) so let's see if it the grain looks any smoother etc


Nigel Allan: Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 6

Seeing this is like coming across a gem in the Taschen books store, only because someone else is looking at it. This is such a great surprise to have you share more of the richest time in your life for your B&W work. Ken's comments are really helpful as usual and buttresses my own impressions. Eleizabets almost fashion manequin appearance against the acute diverging angles of the building is satisfying as an abrupt end to the eyes left to right forced movement.

If you are doing a fine scan then the neck will be able to be tackled so it is less contrasted with the face, as they might be best seen as one unit of closely mapped tonalities.

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Old November 25th, 2009, 10:58 PM
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Hi Nigel
wonderfull. Even in B&W (,-)!

I do like the high neck, it enhance the feeling of the "beauté froide".

We also see love thru your lens. One can understand!
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Old November 26th, 2009, 01:12 AM
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Hi Nigel
wonderfull. Even in B&W (,-)!

I do like the high neck, it enhance the feeling of the "beauté froide".

We also see love thru your lens. One can understand!
You see Asher, the French see beauty and elegance in areas others overlook :) They even have special words for what they see :)

I am sure the French have as many descriptions for beauty and elegance as the eskimos have for snow or the bedouin have for sand dunes

Now I'll have to share some of my shots of Elisabet I took in Paris around this time...they have a kind of je ne sais quoi, although Nicolas will be able to frame them for me through a Frenchman's eyes. Merci beaucoup, Nicolas, especialement parce que je sai que vous n'amiez pas les photos monochromes (please excuse my schoolboy French) ...especially since I know you are not a fan of black and white

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Old December 3rd, 2009, 06:18 AM
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These are part of a set I took of my soon to be wife, Elisabet on the 10th September 1984 with my Pentax LX and 50mm 1.4 with Ilford HP5. These were taken at the South bank centre in London and not only had it just rained, we'd had a big row. Hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There's a quality about film that digital just cannot emulate in my opinion.


1. Nigel Allan:
Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 1


2. Nigel Allan:
Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 2



3. Nigel Allan:
Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 3



4. Nigel Allan:
Elisabet, South Bank – 10th September 1984. Number 4

Beautiful pictures. I especially love No 4. I think it says a lot about the state mind and the rain...
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Dear Nigel,

I know it' almost two years late, bur I just stumbled across your images. I wanted to congratulate you on a set of beautifully made images, that are absolute eye-candy! I love the tones, and of course your dramatic compositions.

I do hope you either have, or intend to make, some darkroom prints from these! Otherwise you'd better pop the negatives in the mail for me to make you some...
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